Olympus and Erevos (Two worlds collide...)

Mazzrah wrote:

==>  OPTION 1  <==
 
And that's all I'm going to say about that.
 
~Mazzrah~
Mistress of the Undead
Leader of Stand and Deliver

Why not option 2? Of course I don't want the mechanics of Olympus to be changed in Erevos.

This whole vote was a giant waste of time. The fact that option 2 would be bringing over Olympus mechanics killed the idea of merging for a majority of Erevos players. In addition to that, the whole idea seems half-cocked, no offense. The servers need to be merged to revitalize the player base, without the influx of new players Olympus couldn't work, and hasn't. A big part of keeping the game active is player to player interaction, just taking a scroll through the guilds on Erevos and you can see the inactivity is ridiculously out of hand.   

If this is to be a community decision, then the options need to be a bit more detailed then they are now.

kuba_ wrote:

I perfectly understand why you are defending +30 cap stat for gl. For you change it would be nefring your units.

However +30 for gl is not good for PVP. Items dominated PVP matches (luckilly not as much as in old times). If it would be up to me i would decrase gl stat even to 20 (epics to 15). Then relative new players using epics could fight with veterans on more equal terms. At least after changes of battle mechanism GL items arent everything

veterans like me (non-spending) worked real hard to get our items, the reward is powerful units. there shouldn't be any cchanges in items, if noob want, they can ask for a max amount of gls brought.. simple

soulthief wrote:

I disagree with option 2,

We on Olympus left BC1 for several different reasons. I am not afraid of starting again.

It would be fantastic to see how the dominate players on BC1 react to having to  start with everyone at the same level.    

Again I contend you would not lose that much.

ST

i strongly disagree with you.
your opinions are very inconsiderate. 

I am not really surprised Savvage,

You show up late again, and offer an opinion that was scripted for you, again. I too look forward to seeing you again.

  

ST

Savvage wrote:

kuba_ wrote:

I perfectly understand why you are defending +30 cap stat for gl. For you change it would be nefring your units.

However +30 for gl is not good for PVP. Items dominated PVP matches (luckilly not as much as in old times). If it would be up to me i would decrase gl stat even to 20 (epics to 15). Then relative new players using epics could fight with veterans on more equal terms. At least after changes of battle mechanism GL items arent everything

veterans like me (non-spending) worked real hard to get our items, the reward is powerful units. there shouldn't be any cchanges in items, if noob want, they can ask for a max amount of gls brought..   simple

I think this discussion is just how big the difference should be between GL and Epic items.

I think Erevos' differences are too large, you (apparently) do not, and some others might want an even larger difference.

The bigger the difference the less likely it becomes for a player using superior tactics can beat a player with higher quality. (I think this difference actually disincentivizes many a player from fighting in PvP battles, feeling that difference is too much to overcome, despite how skilled s/he may be...but being as I don't know that, I'll leave the thought in parentheticals)

This entire conversation comes down to:

1) Everything that the Dev's have said about what will happen with a merge SCREWS Erevos players (Dark and Light alike).

2) Erevos players DO NOT want to get screwed.
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The only option that any Erevos player should even consider is #1.

Later, when the Dev's look at the poll and notice that #1 got the most votes and not only the most votes, out paced both #2 and #3 combined (which its close 32 vs 12+24) they might just decide they should implement the non-merge changes to near-capital and capital hexes, which have been l3itched about since the first time the Light Side got to the Dark Capital, on Olympus and see how they work.

If the Dev's would like actual suggestions that the majority of the populace of active players (paying and non-paying) would like to see, then perhaps they should open the discussion in the High Council as a request for suggestions.

THAN0S wrote:

This entire conversation comes down to:

1) Everything that the Dev's have said about what will happen with a merge SCREWS Erevos players (Dark and Light alike).

2) Erevos players DO NOT want to get screwed.
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The only option that any Erevos player should even consider is #1.

Later, when the Dev's look at the poll and notice that #1 got the most votes and not only the most votes, out paced both #2 and #3 combined (which its close 32 vs 12+24) they might just decide they should implement the non-merge changes to near-capital and capital hexes, which have been l3itched about since the first time the Light Side got to the Dark Capital, on Olympus and see how they work.

If the Dev's would like actual suggestions that the majority of the populace of active players (paying and non-paying) would like to see, then perhaps they should open the discussion in the High Council as a request for suggestions.

What if they merged Olympus back to Erevos but the only thing they changed was gear stats? I don't see a problem with that and I agree 100% with those who think Olympus gear is better. Olympus has failed and Erevos hasn't. So I agree that Erevos shouldn't suffer but people stuck on Olympus shouldn't have to suffer either.

Thanos your math skills are sub par how does a combined 36 not greater than 32 for option 1..


Yikes   

ST

soulthief wrote:

OPITION 3 and that ALL THE REAL PLAYERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT!!!!!

real players arn't heavy spenders like you, don't tell me you have the guts to have your account reseted with no gems

The solution here is to have 2 seperate polls. 1 for erevos, 1 for olympus
for erevos, the poll will be merge or not. because if option 3 wins, erevos will be screwed by another server, or like invading olympians.

if ever a merge will happen, it's only obvious to follow more original/first norms, or erevosian norms.

all i see now is olympus having trouble, now please don't implicate us!

and btw, where are the devs? fill us in!

Savvage wrote:

The solution here is to have 2 seperate polls. 1 for erevos, 1 for olympus
for erevos, the poll will be merge or not. because if option 3 wins, erevos will be screwed by another server, or like invading olympians.

if ever a merge will happen, it's only obvious to follow more original/first norms, or erevosian norms.

all i see now is olympus having trouble, now please don't implicate us!

and btw, where are the devs? fill us in!

Scaren and ysosad have made polls to break this down into smaller choices.

ferarith wrote:

Savvage wrote:

The solution here is to have 2 seperate polls. 1 for erevos, 1 for olympus
for erevos, the poll will be merge or not. because if option 3 wins, erevos will be screwed by another server, or like invading olympians.

if ever a merge will happen, it's only obvious to follow more original/first norms, or erevosian norms.

all i see now is olympus having trouble, now please don't implicate us!

and btw, where are the devs? fill us in!

Scaren and ysosad have made polls to break this down into smaller choices.

They're both olympians, they wouldn't care what erevos wants... i mean, lol, read scarens thread.

read ysosad's choices, he lays it all out, u just vote for each one as u see fit. and Yes Scaren is slightly biased towards Olympus.

Savvage wrote:

ferarith wrote:

Savvage wrote:

The solution here is to have 2 seperate polls. 1 for erevos, 1 for olympus
for erevos, the poll will be merge or not. because if option 3 wins, erevos will be screwed by another server, or like invading olympians.

if ever a merge will happen, it's only obvious to follow more original/first norms, or erevosian norms.

all i see now is olympus having trouble, now please don't implicate us!

and btw, where are the devs? fill us in!

Scaren and ysosad have made polls to break this down into smaller choices.

They're both olympians, they wouldn't care what erevos wants... i mean, lol, read scarens thread.

Believe it or not, at least one Olympian is able to give a care about people other than himself or those who share the exact same interests.

You are effectively saying that YOU don't care what Olympians think (because of an ill-conceived notion that we don't care about Erevosians, which, oddly enough, may be because you are projecting), thus being guilty of what you are accusing us of....

Either that or you are just playing this all up...I sincerely hope this is the case.

1 year of this game, no one yet has reached max... and olympus takes even longer to build... why would you devs even make it longer?

ferarith wrote:

Double Post.

Rune,

Will the changes to the capital/border hexes be permanent over all game play worlds? please say yes

Yes

Savvage wrote:

The solution here is to have 2 seperate polls. 1 for erevos, 1 for olympus
for erevos, the poll will be merge or not. because if option 3 wins, erevos will be screwed by another server, or like invading olympians.

if ever a merge will happen, it's only obvious to follow more original/first norms, or erevosian norms.

all i see now is olympus having trouble, now please don't implicate us!

and btw, where are the devs? fill us in!

We are here...what is there to fill you in? We laid down the options and we are watching as the Community expresses its feelings towards each of the options.

With Respect, the Erevos system is preferable to the Olympus system. If worlds are merged, the Everos system should be the system we use.

Everos guilds should loose no resources from upgrades on regional tiles if the worlds are merged due to Olympus being the problem.

--- joseskeen

RuneSlayer wrote:

ferarith wrote:

Double Post.

Rune,

Will the changes to the capital/border hexes be permanent over all game play worlds? please say yes

Yes

YAY

soulthief wrote:

Thanos your math skills are sub par how does a combined 36 not greater than 32 for option 1..


Yikes   

ST

Your reading skills are lacking. Look in the original post and see the part in (). It says close.

Also it is 34 to 12 to 25 with Option #1 holding 48% of the vote now. It will keep going that way as Erevos players understand what is happening.

RuneSlayer wrote:

We are here...what is there to fill you in? We laid down the options and we are watching as the Community expresses its feelings towards each of the options.

Some clarification on the actual numbers behind container size would be nice. I would also like to know the devs current plans for people who play with two accounts / on both servers.

I also believe that the developers position should be considered. You said at the start you preferred option 3, leading me to believe that you prefer at least part of the Olympus system. I think it would help the player base a lot to know what that is and why you prefer it. While this game is partially ours because we play it, love it and support it, it is still majorly yours. You have a better idea of where the game is supposed to be headed and I feel a lot of the time we waste time on the forum 'debating' things that are either already mostly decided or simply not in the immediate short-term plan. I understand all feedback is valuable, but it never hurts to steer us along a path of discussion either.

Savvage wrote:

ferarith wrote:

Savvage wrote:

The solution here is to have 2 seperate polls. 1 for erevos, 1 for olympus
for erevos, the poll will be merge or not. because if option 3 wins, erevos will be screwed by another server, or like invading olympians.

if ever a merge will happen, it's only obvious to follow more original/first norms, or erevosian norms.

all i see now is olympus having trouble, now please don't implicate us!

and btw, where are the devs? fill us in!

Scaren and ysosad have made polls to break this down into smaller choices.

They're both olympians, they wouldn't care what erevos wants... i mean, lol, read scarens thread.

I played on Erevos before you did Savvage. I left because Olympus was a new world and I was already inactive and done with Erevos. Now I want to go back because I would again be active in Erevos and Olympus obviously hasn't worked out so not merging leaves Olympian players to deal with this broken server.

I believe that the best option is for Olypus players to merge into Everos and they are able to keep the gems that they bought in Olypus but not in Everos previously (I'm not sure about resources and gear though), also, the building and research progress from Olypus should be kept too. Gear with lower stats from Olypus could have an AP reduction in order to balance it out. I think that the mechanics of Everos are better than Olypus and should be retained however this is open to debate. The reason why I think that the gems bought in Olypus should be carried over but not ones bought in Everos previously is that the players would be able to gain back their previous gear as many would have donated it into a guild vault thus they are able to retrieve it. I think that the guilds in Everos are fine as they are and if the Olypus guild leaders want to have a guild of their own then they can start one and encourage their members from Olypus to join them. This is what I wrote in Ysosad's post regarding the battle mechanics:
"Personally I believe (sticking to just CP containers and gear) that for CP containers the CPs containers are better and gear in PvPs could be solved with organised PvPs e.g. limit on no. of GLs set by the players for that specific battle. Small CP containers and regions that fall fast only discourage guilds from trying to occupy frontline regions as any investment they make could be gone in a few hours, it has been said many times that a small CP container was meant for a small population so why keep it for a large population if the 2 servers merge? As for gear, you could just ask the person you're facing not to use GLs, I can't think of anyone who would say they won't take GLs in PvP then take them (not on Everos - this is not meant to offend anyone, I wrote this purely because I do not know all the players on Olypus) and if the devs impliment a way to organise PvPs, e.g. limit on GS and rarity of items etc. then gear does not have to be nerfed."
I believe that doing this option is the best solution as it is fair to all players (although I'm sure someone will disagree as I probably overlooked something) and wouldn't destroy anyone's progress in terms of buildings.