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Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?
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RuneSlayer

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PostSubject: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 9:09 am

What does the Community want?
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Scaren

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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 9:30 am

RuneSlayer wrote:
What does the Community want?

I want to vote no/yes. I don't want the darkside to just "get the win" on Olympus. I want them to earn it. Secondly I want one server since this is a one server game but at this point it would be a difficult transition. Thirdly I think patience is a virtue and at this point I would rather wait for the devs updates more than anything.
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PostSubject: I have had fun But   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 9:35 am

I have had fun, but would like to end the game a merge with BC1.

And Scaren cheats at PVP....Just sayin  cheers 


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Pyr




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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 9:35 am

well i will wait till the changes before i will vote Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 10:02 am

hold on.. the basic question seems invalid.

from the other thread i more or less understood that the main reason for a merge is the stalemate/non being able to win on olympos.

With a reset on olympos that reason fo a merge would disappear. a small playerbase ni itself should be no hindrance for having a fun game (perhaps even more so, as each player has a bigger influence in the actual war)..

wouldn't it make more sense to do that reset and wait for a bit (including the changes in the game itself) and see how things develop?
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Pyr




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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 10:11 am

klass are you pvping or even cooping ? for pvp is small comunity but we know each other so there are some pvp battles but for coops you have to wait ages Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 10:28 am

Reset and merge are two different things, you should put three options (1-Let it be, 2-Reset, 3-Merge) or create two polls, one for merging and another for hard reset.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 11:06 am

Merge and do it quickly, everything else is suicidal for the memberbase(Unite the 2 worlds!)
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 11:13 am

Take Olympus and make it a third faction on erevos?
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Bblazer

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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 11:32 am

RuneSlayer wrote:
What does the Community want?

More activity, fair balance on both sides, not darks having all bonuses for 1-2 month leaving nothing for the lights would solve most things, so merge will definitely help until noob swarm.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 12:37 pm

Voted no, hate the idea ;P.

1) Difference in costs.

2) Surrender is for the weak (strategic withdrawal still tactically valid lol)

3) Does not address any of the actual problems with stalemate.

I know people are upset, but suck it up. Devs are working (and working double herding cats here lol) on it, and things take time. The internet is very much a world of instant gratification, and I think sometimes we lose sight of the fact that the real world work BEHIND the internet takes time, because it's still work.

As far as I can tell this poll is really just a stall (sorry devs, if it was secret Wink) to shut up some of the more complainy people who don't like to wait.

In short; screw the merger fix the stalemate. Nobody will complain as much about playing on an underpopulated server if they can actually WIN THE BLOODY GAME on a more regular basis.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 1:01 pm

Just so i'm clear I do want the servers to merge. However their needs to be separate polls. I don't just want a reset on Olympus. But I think that the servers need to merge. Merge or create a completely new server that everyone has to merge too. Either way it will be a difficult process. making everyone reset is not an option. If the decision does come to merge the serversI hope it does i'm sure a lot of suggestions will be thrown around. But I stand firm that this type of game should be one server. I think that would be best.
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Tibr

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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 2:36 pm

Ewww, would we want you elitist lot back? Razz

Did that new publisher entirely screw up with a noobflow? Or is that still a go, slow go.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 3:14 pm

A little motivation to keep figthing  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 3:32 pm

LSLarry wrote:


I know people are upset, but suck it up.  

In short; screw the merger fix the stalemate.  Nobody will complain as much about playing on an underpopulated server if they can actually WIN THE BLOODY GAME on a more regular basis.  

a small edited quote, but i agree wholeheartedly.

1) erevos has given the example on how to prevent an endless stalemate.
2) ask the devs to change the game mechanics.

there, solved.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 4:09 pm

There are some more fundamental issues at play here.

1. How would you merge players back in to Erevos? Gem players getting all back again? There is a huge advantage to knowing what works/doesn't from that perspective to get a free re-do for experienced players.

2. Would you allow players to change races again? What if everyone went light/dark, you'd create imbalance to the current game going on erevos that no "new player rush" would ever create?

3. What was the purpose of launching a new world with different rules if you're just going to give up on it so quickly. Unless we're just trying to punt server costs here there seems to be no real benefit to players on a merge.

4. The game isn't over until someone wins. if light wants to give up, make them make that decision to get a reset...don't set a precedent that whenever it looks bleak devs push a magic redo button, award aether all around and everyone starts again.

Just my thoughts.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 8:07 pm

Irish,

I honestly hoped that when the light won on Everos that all our accounts would move to Olympus and we'd continue the fight on a new map. I'd be in favor of making it a bit easier to win and then changing maps(hopefully more than just 2) each time.

But that's just my dream scenario.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 28, 2014 9:35 pm

Hmmm....I have an account on each server. If there was to be a merge, I would have to give up one of my accounts, right? I don't think I want to do that. All my great items are on my Erevos account but I prefer playing on my Olympus account.

Though I must admit that there is not really enough players on either server and recombining the servers would probably help that. I am curious what that trump card is that Rune has in mind...  Razz 
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2014 5:00 am

Just one thing that may have not been very clear.

When I mentioned "Reset of Olympus", I didn't mean reset of the players' accounts.

The basic idea is to go back to a 1 game world, instead of having two, reduce the Regional Containers, reduce the CP bonus and have new maps every time a Faction wins.

Do you people think that the title of the poll was not clear so perhaps a new poll with a more clear description should be made?
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2014 5:03 am

Tibr wrote:
Did that new publisher entirely screw up with a noobflow? Or is that still a go, slow go.

Let us just say that he has entirely screwed up our plan for BC...We just can't rely on publishers which dictate gameplay features and affect 100% the incoming traffic...

This is why we have decided to follow a different path, which hopefully will lead to some GRAND changes...More on that in the following weeks.

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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2014 6:29 am

From one side there are not enough players for two worlds and merge worlds would be very good move, however from other side there are few issues which need to be solved:

1. Many players (including me) have accounts on both worlds and they (including me) will want to move all items to the one account, according to game rules it is illegal now.

2. Items. Both worlds have different cap stat for items.

3. Progress. I migrated to Olympus and now my city/empire is much weaker than old one (buildings and lvls of units). After merging two worlds players who migrated to new server will be punished for that. I do not care much about that and can live with that, but many people will be upset.


I voted YES for merging two worlds. In long term it should be beneficial for game and players.
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2014 7:59 am

RuneSlayer wrote:
This is why we have decided to follow a different path, which hopefully will lead to some GRAND changes...More on that in the following weeks.

^Would rather wait a few weeks to see what happens than merge servers. Patience is hard, but it often pays off!
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2014 9:25 am

RuneSlayer wrote:
Tibr wrote:
Did that new publisher entirely screw up with a noobflow? Or is that still a go, slow go.

Let us just say that he has entirely screwed up our plan for BC...We just can't rely on publishers which dictate gameplay features and affect 100% the incoming traffic...

Really sorry to hear that Rune.

RuneSlayer wrote:
Just one thing that may have not been very clear.

When I mentioned "Reset of Olympus", I didn't mean reset of the players' accounts.

The basic idea is to go back to a 1 game world, instead of having two, reduce the Regional Containers, reduce the CP bonus and have new maps every time a Faction wins.

Do you people think that the title of the poll was not clear so perhaps a new poll with a more clear description should be made?

I like the smaller containers, reduction to CP bonus and the map rotation.

The thing for me is that I don't want the merge to occur without having a winner on Olympus. I feel that the Dark should have won long ago...with that said, the Light is putting up a heck of a fight and it is clear from certain members' responses that a good amount of them don't plan on just giving up.

So, I do want a merger...but not before this cycle has some closure. (It will also be very strange fighting against certain players on Erevos)
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PostSubject: Re: Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more?   Reset of Olympus and merge with Erevos or wait some more? I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2014 9:37 am

Lowering containers would require a complete rework of regional bonuses, because as olympus taught us they are worth nothing at all there, unless its a deep deep safe and secure one.
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I echo exactly Ysosad's thoughts on this, getting rid of CP bonus will be great, rewarding one sides extra efforts and creating faster and more dynamic games with new maps each time. The only bonus I would suggest to keep in place is the one for persuading new players to join the losing faction....this will help keep an overall balance, but not with the immediate effect of nullifying strong pushes

I am happy to merge back, but want a conclusion to Olympus before that happens, hopefully with the changes coming next week that will happen sooner rather than later.

I also agree with Tibr that if the game is restructered in this way with smaller containers, then regional bonuses should be reworked. One way would be to make them cheaper to upgrade.....however I prefer the idea of keeping them at around the same price but with higher % benefits to make them much more worthwhile and much more coveted.....this will create much more of a tension between guilds of the same faction as to who owns what (rather than not being over bothered as it is only a small benefit) and to me that sides within sides aspect is one of the best bits in the game creating many more permutations rather than just light vs dark
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