Merging of Erevos and Olympus / Multi-Accounts

I don't like the fact that Aether will be shared between accounts. I could have easily made a second account on Erevos and it would have taken me maybe 30 minutes to an hour to get to 500 fame.

ysosad wrote:

1. If approved, do you have an estimate as to when the merge would occur? (Realizing that several factors are at play or unknown, I'm just looking for the minimum amount of time...not the maximum due to issues that may arise.)

RuneSlayer wrote:

1) Can we have an estimate about the planned fame/gems ratio?

Some time next week, definitely before Friday.

ysosad wrote:

2. Will a win/partial win condition be considered to make the progress that the two game worlds have made this cycle seem meaningful?

Not sure I understand completely what you are asking here. Please explain.

Scaen wrote:

I don't like the fact that Aether will be shared between accounts. I could have easily made a second account on Erevos and it would have taken me maybe 30 minutes to an hour to get to 500 fame.

Correct...and who said that we will allow players who have registered a few days ago to benefit from this "delete account" mechanism? This is done for all the players who have truly invested time and effort and it is our way to say "We care..."

RuneSlayer wrote:

ysosad wrote:

2. Will a win/partial win condition be considered to make the progress that the two game worlds have made this cycle seem meaningful?

Not sure I understand completely what you are asking here. Please explain.

Sure. In the absence of a Capital falling, will you institute a win condition that is specific to the current war cycle that Erevos and Olympus are currently in.

For instance:

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The wars on Olympus and Erevos will end at XX:XX GMT on March XX, 2014 in preparation for the merger of the populations to occur over the next X minutes/hours.

If at the time the wars end, a Faction has control of XX% or more of all regions, then they shall be declared the winner. If neither Faction controls the required amount of regions, a tie will be declared (and Aether will/will not be distributed).

Aether rewards for a win for such conditions will be distributed at:

1. Regular levels, as when a Capital falls.
2. XX% of the regular levels.
3. At these amounts: _________

Titles for the top 3 players on in each Faction will/will not be given for this cycle.

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That is what I mean by meaningful, that there has been a point to fighting since the maps reset and that there is a point to continue fighting until the merger occurs.

ysosad wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

ysosad wrote:

2. Will a win/partial win condition be considered to make the progress that the two game worlds have made this cycle seem meaningful?

Not sure I understand completely what you are asking here. Please explain.

Sure. In the absence of a Capital falling, will you institute a win condition that is specific to the current war cycle that Erevos and Olympus are currently in.

For instance:

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The wars on Olympus and Erevos will end at XX:XX GMT on March XX, 2014 in preparation for the merger of the populations to occur over the next X minutes/hours.

If at the time the wars end, a Faction has control of XX% or more of all regions, then they shall be declared the winner. If neither Faction controls the required amount of regions, a tie will be declared (and Aether will/will not be distributed).

Aether rewards for a win for such conditions will be distributed at:

1. Regular levels, as when a Capital falls.
2. XX% of the regular levels.
3. At these amounts: _________

Titles for the top 3 players on in each Faction will/will not be given for this cycle.

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That is what I mean by meaningful, that there has been a point to fighting since the maps reset and that there is a point to continue fighting until the merger occurs.

There will not be such a thing, due to the fact that Erevos and Olympus have recently both reset (i.e. a Faction achieved victory over the other) and we will allow Aether and Aether items to be transferred from one account to the other.

Ok, so normal (non aether ones) items/frags on the deleted account will be lost...
But as other people already pointed out (and no answer has been given about that, so i'm asking again), players with two account on the same faction will be able to transfer them from one account to the other using the guild vault (sure, you need to join the guild to receive them, but still possible to do: deposit-delete-join the other account-claim back), while players with accounts on opposite factions will not be able to do that, (unless using the market, which will probably lead to a ban as multiaccount violation, plus the risk of being sniped while doing the transation)...

Is there a solution to that?
Or you actually do not want players to transfer items?

(I'm asking because i have some good items on the account i will delete: i whould like to keep them, but i dont want to risk a ban, and i dont think i'm the only one with this problem)
Thanks for the answer

RuneSlayer wrote:

ysosad wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

ysosad wrote:

2. Will a win/partial win condition be considered to make the progress that the two game worlds have made this cycle seem meaningful?

Not sure I understand completely what you are asking here. Please explain.

Sure. In the absence of a Capital falling, will you institute a win condition that is specific to the current war cycle that Erevos and Olympus are currently in.

For instance:

---

The wars on Olympus and Erevos will end at XX:XX GMT on March XX, 2014 in preparation for the merger of the populations to occur over the next X minutes/hours.

If at the time the wars end, a Faction has control of XX% or more of all regions, then they shall be declared the winner. If neither Faction controls the required amount of regions, a tie will be declared (and Aether will/will not be distributed).

Aether rewards for a win for such conditions will be distributed at:

1. Regular levels, as when a Capital falls.
2. XX% of the regular levels.
3. At these amounts: _________

Titles for the top 3 players on in each Faction will/will not be given for this cycle.

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That is what I mean by meaningful, that there has been a point to fighting since the maps reset and that there is a point to continue fighting until the merger occurs.

There will not be such a thing, due to the fact that Erevos and Olympus have recently both reset (i.e. a Faction achieved victory over the other) and we will allow Aether and Aether items to be transferred from one account to the other.

Rune...whatever happens to the next puppy I see is on you!

I'll probably adopt it and it'll be so awesome that I'll forget all about my problems with Rune...why, what were you thinking?

RuneSlayer wrote:

ysosad wrote:

Rune...whatever happens to the next puppy I see is on you!

I'll probably adopt it and it'll be so awesome that I'll forget all about my problems with Rune...why, what were you thinking?

I, RuneSlayer, shall eat ysosad's puppy!

   

Quick question about people who have migrated and play only on 2nd server, or who want to go back to play a different race, even from the start again...

Is it possible to delete the only account, create a new one and transfer unspent gems + fame gems to it? Or are people stuck with their bc2 account then?

Fyrr wrote:

Quick question about people who have migrated and play only on 2nd server, or who want to go back to play a different race, even from the start again...

Is it possible to delete the only account, create a new one and transfer unspent gems + fame gems to it? Or are people stuck with their bc2 account then?

Interesting question...

Currently we were not working on such a possibility, but it may become a possibility. I can't guarantee it, as we don't have time to add more changes in the workflow....but I can understand its usage.

Edit: The whole point of the suggested "delete account" mechanism is to provide a fair solution to the players who had created a 2nd account to a game world which didn't last as long as it was intended. Giving free Gems to players who are deleting their accounts anytime is definitely not something that we would like to do. However, it may be possible to provide a reset account ability to players and give the Gems they bought back, but nothing else. This way, players will be able to change races and NOT lose the Gems they bought.

Ashard wrote:

Ok, so normal (non aether ones) items/frags on the deleted account will be lost...
But as other people already pointed out (and no answer has been given about that, so i'm asking again), players with two account on the same faction will be able to transfer them from one account to the other using the guild vault (sure, you need to join the guild to receive them, but still possible to do: deposit-delete-join the other account-claim back), while players with accounts on opposite factions will not be able to do that, (unless using the market, which will probably lead to a ban as multiaccount violation, plus the risk of being sniped while doing the transation)...

Is there a solution to that?
Or you actually do not want players to transfer items?

(I'm asking because i have some good items on the account i will delete: i whould like to keep them, but i dont want to risk a ban, and i dont think i'm the only one with this problem)
Thanks for the answer

I agree with that. Due to rules you might be banned. But due to merging and conscious of multiaccounting allowed for a few days, there will be expection and the transfering will be allowed, I hope.
If nothing else, you can put overpriced whatever you need on market, and buy from other account. To cover the spent ressources, you put cheap frag up and buy it to cover difference and you repeat it regarding what and how much you're transfering. To avoid banning, ask someone from guild to help you (or if you have not enough big warehouse capacity).

I believe there should be made transfer between different factions possible too.
As ashard said, it's way easier if it's changed.

And prease verify if transfering without guild will be allowed, Rune.



Fyr... does it mean you want to change faction?

tommarkc wrote:

Fyr... does it mean you want to change faction?

it means i know some people from even my guild who migrated hoping for more pvps and getting gems and to try another race, and perhaps they miss the old race/name or whatever. i'm personally sticking with my bc1 DL account anyway.

Rune wrote:

However, it may be possible to provide a reset account ability to players and give the Gems they bought back, but nothing else.

oh this might work ^^ and less clutter of dead'ish accounts.

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and how about those item/frag transfers from different factions and such, like people ask?

Hey, we have been fighting on everos for weeks...good battles, good fun. You have to declare a winner..all the effort for nothing? Come on man...do the right thing...declare a winner.,.hand out the aether rewards as usual and then reset. otherwise the last month has been a complete waste of time. We have invested time and gems in a war that the devs have decided is irrelevant?! Not a good decision....not a good decision at all. We are having fun here on everos. I for one am happy to stay as we are. Don't punish us for a venture that has not worked out...declare a winner!

Just a question there Mr. Runeslayer about guilds that have already build regional upgrades on either server.

Will the regional upgrades automatically be credited back to the vault at full value?

OR

Will guild leaders need to demolish everything to get 50% of the resources back?

Fyrr wrote:

and how about those item/frag transfers from different factions and such, like people ask?

This can become a nightmare. If people could simply transfer their belongings from one account to the other then a lot of things could go wrong and a lot of things WILL be wrong in the new world.

The reason why we are working on this "delete account" mechanism is to compensate to a certain extent for the effort invested in one account and bring it with you to another account which is on a different game world.

RuneSlayer wrote:

This can become a nightmare. If people could simply transfer their belongings from one account to the other then a lot of things could go wrong and a lot of things WILL be wrong in the new world.

then people who have guilds/vault/same faction, will be able to transfer their stuff anyway, but others won't be able to.. hmm. unless you make it impossible to even transfer via guilds.

and what about different gl/epic caps from both servers?

Fyrr wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

This can become a nightmare. If people could simply transfer their belongings from one account to the other then a lot of things could go wrong and a lot of things WILL be wrong in the new world.

then people who have guilds/vault/same faction, will be able to transfer their stuff anyway, but others won't be able to.. hmm. unless you make it impossible to even transfer via guilds.

and what about different gl/epic caps from both servers?

Actually deposits are not possible at the moment due to the preparations we are doing for the merging of the two game worlds. We have already started the database changes for this HUGE transferring from Erevos and Olympus to the new world. We may have to disable more functions, though we will try to minimize the effect of this HUGE OVERHAUL to you players...

As I understand it; after the merge is when players will dump items/res/frags to their guilds anyway. We'll be allowed to run two accounts, and I'm assuming both will be able to deposit to guild again after the merge.

So the problem remains; database access or not. Half the people (complete guess ;P) are going to be able to transfer all their items hassle free, the other half are not.

RuneSlayer wrote:

Fyrr wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

This can become a nightmare. If people could simply transfer their belongings from one account to the other then a lot of things could go wrong and a lot of things WILL be wrong in the new world.

then people who have guilds/vault/same faction, will be able to transfer their stuff anyway, but others won't be able to.. hmm. unless you make it impossible to even transfer via guilds.

and what about different gl/epic caps from both servers?

Actually deposits are not possible at the moment due to the preparations we are doing for the merging of the two game worlds. We have already started the database changes for this HUGE transferring from Erevos and Olympus to the new world. We may have to disable more functions, though we will try to minimize the effect of this HUGE OVERHAUL to you players...

How about... people leaving Erevos, dumping their resources, items, and fragments to the vault (even tho they are supposed to go down with you) and now coming back to their guild, to re-take what they had form Erevos and joining them up with what they have with Olympus? That shouldn't be allowed!

Savvage wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

Fyrr wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

This can become a nightmare. If people could simply transfer their belongings from one account to the other then a lot of things could go wrong and a lot of things WILL be wrong in the new world.

then people who have guilds/vault/same faction, will be able to transfer their stuff anyway, but others won't be able to.. hmm. unless you make it impossible to even transfer via guilds.

and what about different gl/epic caps from both servers?

Actually deposits are not possible at the moment due to the preparations we are doing for the merging of the two game worlds. We have already started the database changes for this HUGE transferring from Erevos and Olympus to the new world. We may have to disable more functions, though we will try to minimize the effect of this HUGE OVERHAUL to you players...

How about... people leaving Erevos, dumping their resources, items, and fragments to the vault (even tho they are supposed to go down with you) and now coming back to their guild, to re-take what they had form Erevos and joining them up with what they have with Olympus? That shouldn't be allowed!

I agree. This will be unfair for the rest of the population.

Do we have new item final values btw? And how will they get converted, "is it worth crafting anything now" ?

RuneSlayer wrote:

Savvage wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

Fyrr wrote:

RuneSlayer wrote:

This can become a nightmare. If people could simply transfer their belongings from one account to the other then a lot of things could go wrong and a lot of things WILL be wrong in the new world.

then people who have guilds/vault/same faction, will be able to transfer their stuff anyway, but others won't be able to.. hmm. unless you make it impossible to even transfer via guilds.

and what about different gl/epic caps from both servers?

Actually deposits are not possible at the moment due to the preparations we are doing for the merging of the two game worlds. We have already started the database changes for this HUGE transferring from Erevos and Olympus to the new world. We may have to disable more functions, though we will try to minimize the effect of this HUGE OVERHAUL to you players...

How about... people leaving Erevos, dumping their resources, items, and fragments to the vault (even tho they are supposed to go down with you) and now coming back to their guild, to re-take what they had form Erevos and joining them up with what they have with Olympus? That shouldn't be allowed!

I agree. This will be unfair for the rest of the population.

  

Please open transfers from different faction guilds, at least for a few days (I dont know why it's closed at all, anyway).
Some people already given all things to guild, while people like like me didn't. I expect to get at least those 15% of everything back of ressources and frags that I earned in 3/4 year. That's quite least you should do, and no, any gems cannot cover all that. And even that idea won't cover even close to all.

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I have a challenge for the BC Community...

We are prepared to allow ALL items and ALL frags to be transferred from one account to the other through the "delete account" mechanism IF the Community can do the following:

Create an engaging story which will unfold by making posts in the thread "A Battle Conquest Story".

Rules:

1. Each post should be maximum 10 lines and the same person cannot post twice in a row.

2. The story should have to do with the world of Battle Conquest.

3. You can use players from the game for the characters of the story.

4. This challenge will run for 3 days (ends on the 15th).

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IF the story is good....the WHOLE BC Community will benefit as described above. If it is not, then well....you know...

When we get dropped to Hades, will we retain our CPs and fame from CPs?
For now, until 19, we have no reason to earn CPs if it will be restarted to 0... we will lose all motivation ;(