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Pearl

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PostSubject: Awarding capital bug?   Awarding capital bug? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:25 pm

On August 8th, 2:00 AM EST, when Ourobors ate his tale (i..e: the cycle changed), region #53 (which had been empty) was awarded to Vanguard of Valkyrie (picture is 6 minutes after the cycle ended).

Vanguard of Valkryie had 10.4% Influence
The Outsiders  had 11.7% Influence

NOTE: that The Outsiders is a level 1 guild & cannot hold territories.

See picture here: Picture of #53

The guild command help (the ? on world page) says "When a guild has the highest influence in a Region and over 10% it becomes the Ruling guild & controls the region".

Based on the guild command, that condition did not apply to when Vanguard of Valkyrie became the ruling guild.

It appears the actual condition, in partially dependent if a competing guild is able to control the territory or not ...
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PostSubject: Re: Awarding capital bug?   Awarding capital bug? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 11:09 pm

That is correct Joyce. What is the mistake here?
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PostSubject: Re: Awarding capital bug?   Awarding capital bug? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 11:16 pm

The awarding the control of the captial to Vangaurd of Valkyrie does not match the description:

"When a guild has the highest influence in a Region and over 10% it becomes the Ruling guild & controls the region".

They did not have the highest influence in the region, they where #2.

So the "mistake" is either:

1) Awarding them the capital when they where not the highest influence; OR
2) The description.

A description of the actual situation appears to be:

"When a guild has the highest influence in a Region, of those guilds that have the ability to control that territory, and over 10% it becomes the Ruling guilds & controls the region".

Likewise, it will be interesting to see if in 4 hours & 45 minutes (end of this cycle), if they lose their capital [if they are not the highest influence; but are still the highest influence of those guilds that have the ability to control that region].

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From a game point of view, the description, as given, lets a level 1 guild, believe it can race for a capital with a higher level guild.

As long as it can stay ahead in influence; it can, then later, gain control (without the other guild gaining control) when it has the resources to upgrade & control the region.

There are political reasons for this; since once a guild gains a territory, the political situation changes its no longer considered just a race; but a guild "attacking another guild".

Thus had Vanguard of Valkyrie not been awarded the region; The Outsiders could have kept up the race [if it could stay ahead]; until it could become a level 2 guild & control the region.

Thus, the actual implementation of control & influence (can you keep up the race with a guild for a region, when you can't control it, but have more influence?) has significant game implications.
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PostSubject: Re: Awarding capital bug?   Awarding capital bug? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 13, 2013 6:41 am

Joyce wrote:
The awarding the control of the captial to Vangaurd of Valkyrie does not match the description:

"When a guild has the highest influence in a Region and over 10% it becomes the Ruling guild & controls the region".

They did not have the highest influence in the region, they where #2.

So the "mistake" is either:

1) Awarding them the capital when they where not the highest influence; OR
2) The description.

A description of the actual situation appears to be:

"When a guild has the highest influence in a Region, of those guilds that have the ability to control that territory, and over 10% it becomes the Ruling guilds & controls the region".

Likewise, it will be interesting to see if in 4 hours & 45 minutes (end of this cycle), if they lose their capital [if they are not the highest influence; but are still the highest influence of those guilds that have the ability to control that region].

==========

From a game point of view, the description, as given, lets a level 1 guild, believe it can race for a capital with a higher level guild.

As long as it can stay ahead in influence; it can, then later, gain control (without the other guild gaining control) when it has the resources to upgrade & control the region.

There are political reasons for this; since once a guild gains a territory, the political situation changes its no longer considered just a race; but a guild "attacking another guild".

Thus had Vanguard of Valkyrie not been awarded the region; The Outsiders could have kept up the race [if it could stay ahead]; until it could become a level 2 guild & control the region.

Thus, the actual implementation of control & influence (can you keep up the race with a guild for a region, when you can't control it, but have more influence?) has significant game implications.
here is the simple answer for you. The Outsiders can't control a region. Vanguard of Valkyrie can control a region. Very simple answer. If the the outsiders had upgraded their guild they could control a region. They didn't, what happened and the way the devs implemented it made perfect sense.
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