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Claudandus
Posts : 585
Join date : 2013-10-21
 |  Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing  Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:56 pm | |
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- Claudandus wrote:
- Numbers Scaren. What is your current AP for your LI?
LI AP is 67 with +9 melee and armor. LIA AP is 71 with +9 melee. HI ap is 172 with +9 melee and armor. Thanks now I can finally correct you and tell you that after the intended UD nerf (+18 Ap to both LI and LIA and +20 AP to the HI) all UD units, surprisingly even the HI will surpass your AP costs for whatever reason. LI AP will be 80 with your researches. LIA AP will be 84. HI AP will be 180. | |
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Scaren
Posts : 1043
Join date : 2013-07-09
Age : 42
| | Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:26 pm | |
| - Claudandus wrote:
- Scaren wrote:
- Claudandus wrote:
- Numbers Scaren. What is your current AP for your LI?
LI AP is 67 with +9 melee and armor. LIA AP is 71 with +9 melee. HI ap is 172 with +9 melee and armor.
Thanks now I can finally correct you and tell you that after the intended UD nerf (+18 Ap to both LI and LIA and +20 AP to the HI) all UD units, surprisingly even the HI will surpass your AP costs for whatever reason.
LI AP will be 80 with your researches. LIA AP will be 84. HI AP will be 180. From what I see on High Council the new Undead AP will be LI:63 LIA:73 and HI:165. So still lower than dwarven units ap. | |
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Claudandus
Posts : 585
Join date : 2013-10-21
| | Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:23 pm | |
| - Scaren wrote:
- Claudandus wrote:
- Scaren wrote:
- Claudandus wrote:
- Numbers Scaren. What is your current AP for your LI?
LI AP is 67 with +9 melee and armor. LIA AP is 71 with +9 melee. HI ap is 172 with +9 melee and armor.
Thanks now I can finally correct you and tell you that after the intended UD nerf (+18 Ap to both LI and LIA and +20 AP to the HI) all UD units, surprisingly even the HI will surpass your AP costs for whatever reason.
LI AP will be 80 with your researches. LIA AP will be 84. HI AP will be 180.
From what I see on High Council the new Undead AP will be LI:63 LIA:73 and HI:165. So still lower than dwarven units ap. Those are the AP for lvl 1 units without any researches. Dwarven LI without researches 50 AP. LIA 60 AP. HI 155 AP. That is exactly why we need updated charts so we are all on the same page. | |
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Scaren
Posts : 1043
Join date : 2013-07-09
Age : 42
| | Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:54 am | |
| - Claudandus wrote:
- Scaren wrote:
- Claudandus wrote:
- Scaren wrote:
- Claudandus wrote:
- Numbers Scaren. What is your current AP for your LI?
LI AP is 67 with +9 melee and armor. LIA AP is 71 with +9 melee. HI ap is 172 with +9 melee and armor.
Thanks now I can finally correct you and tell you that after the intended UD nerf (+18 Ap to both LI and LIA and +20 AP to the HI) all UD units, surprisingly even the HI will surpass your AP costs for whatever reason.
LI AP will be 80 with your researches. LIA AP will be 84. HI AP will be 180.
From what I see on High Council the new Undead AP will be LI:63 LIA:73 and HI:165. So still lower than dwarven units ap.
Those are the AP for lvl 1 units without any researches.
Dwarven LI without researches 50 AP. LIA 60 AP. HI 155 AP.
That is exactly why we need updated charts so we are all on the same page. I hadn't realized that Undead were going to be the highest ap units but it makes sense. I do remember DL HI being a lot of AP though so it may be close to Undead HI AP also. | |
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Claudandus
Posts : 585
Join date : 2013-10-21
| | Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:20 am | |
| It definitely makes sense for LI and LIA but I'm not exactly sure what the reasoning is for increasing HI AP above dwarven.
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LSLarry
Posts : 279
Join date : 2014-01-20
| | Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:00 am | |
| How does the AP increase for researches work?
Using +9/+9 since it's already in this thread...
If I count it as 3x+3 melee weapons and 3x+3 armour armours that is 3x4AP + 3x2AP for a total of 18 AP.
If I count it as a +9 melee weapon and a +9 armour armour, it's 11+7 for a total of 18 AP.
So a dwarf LI w/those researches should actually have a base AP of 49 not 50, HI 154 etc....
I know it's only a difference of 1. My question is this; armour isn't a great stat right now... is it being overvalued in AP from research? Armour from a weapon and armour from a research should contribute the same thing... Am I just makin an error? Plz correct lol... | |
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Claudandus
Posts : 585
Join date : 2013-10-21
| | Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:13 am | |
| The calculation of AP from researches goes like this (not 100% sure but i always seem to get it right so far). 3 armor cost 2 AP points.
For melee however the matter is a little more difficult. I can savely assume that +9 melee research costs 11AP. 12 melee costs 14 AP. And my best bet would be that 15 melee equals 18 AP.
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uflb999
Posts : 169
Join date : 2013-12-07
Location : 'Merica
| | Subject: Re: LOC and Fleeing Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:21 am | |
| Much numbers very wow  | |
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