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PostSubject: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 12, 2014 9:53 pm

I try not to complain much, but I'm getting more and more frustrated with repairing my items.

I'm actually running out of equipment for my troops.

At most recent count I have over 180 items that require repairing.
I have rares that require over 3 hours to repair. As its simply not feasible for me to login every 1-3 hours to start a whole new cycle of repairs, I am falling further and further behind.

The gem cost for speeding up repair times is insanely over-priced, so I refuse to use it.

I'm aware that the devs are currently looking into revamping aspects of the repair system, and I GREATLY look forward to those changes. However I'm also aware its not really a priority, and there are many things to come before that.

I'm not sure my sanity will last that long.

As items degrade, require gold to repair, and fragments to reforge, are such long repair times really necessary?
Is it REALLY that important for game balance that repairing items be made as frustrating and tedious as humanly possible?

Honestly.... I formerly request you at least HALF all repair times, until such a time where you have a more user-friendly system in place.

Just as you've reduced heal times, as it served no purpose than to cause endless frustration, I believe repairing items is in entirely the same basket.
Apparently I can hire new recruits, revive heroes from the dead, mend broken bones and grievous wounds about 10x faster than I can repair a sword.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 12, 2014 11:35 pm

Today, January 13, 2014, XViper has finaly shed his title 'Lazy' and has acquired a new title:

XViper the Impassioned Smile

Very nice post & point really well made, XViper +1
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 12:04 am

Why thank you Razz

P.S. Love that picture.

Look at the suggestion forums.
I even went as far as to photoshop my own image!! Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 2:39 am

lol XViper.... Smile

I've already replied to Pearl's Post regarding a Guild Shop, where I expressed my opinion about Epic and Godlike items.

1. Agreed that the Gems cost for the speed up of repairing should be lower. It WILL be reduced significantly.

2. We may decrease the repairing times for the items a bit, if the Community finds them so tedious, BUT I don't want Epic and Godlike items to be repaired in a few minutes.

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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 4:11 am

I don't mind if they aren't repaired in a few minutes, but I think over 3 hours for anything is crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 4:33 am

XViper wrote:
I don't mind if they aren't repaired in a few minutes, but I think over 3 hours for anything is crazy.

Why is it crazy? Since a player can have more than 1 item of any type, he has the option to use items in a rotation.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 6:28 am

RuneSlayer wrote:

2. We may decrease the repairing times for the items a bit, if the Community finds them so tedious, BUT I don't want Epic and Godlike items to be repaired in a few minutes.

Nine out of ten doctors community members agree, the repair times are too tedious.

The 10th is just being contradictory for the sake of being contradictory.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 6:37 am

ysosad wrote:
RuneSlayer wrote:

2. We may decrease the repairing times for the items a bit, if the Community finds them so tedious, BUT I don't want Epic and Godlike items to be repaired in a few minutes.

Nine out of ten doctors community members agree, the repair times are too tedious.

The 10th is just being contradictory for the sake of being contradictory.

Is this why your are so sad ysosad? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 7:16 am

ysosad wrote:
RuneSlayer wrote:

2. We may decrease the repairing times for the items a bit, if the Community finds them so tedious, BUT I don't want Epic and Godlike items to be repaired in a few minutes.

Nine out of ten doctors community members agree, the repair times are too tedious.

The 10th is just being contradictory for the sake of being contradictory.

Love the fine print.  jocolor 
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 7:18 am

RuneSlayer wrote:
ysosad wrote:
RuneSlayer wrote:

2. We may decrease the repairing times for the items a bit, if the Community finds them so tedious, BUT I don't want Epic and Godlike items to be repaired in a few minutes.

Nine out of ten doctors community members agree, the repair times are too tedious.

The 10th is just being contradictory for the sake of being contradictory.

Is this why your are so sad ysosad? Wink

I think the game has had a lot of changes for the better. That goes for increasing repair times too because in so doing you've increased the value of controlling a forge...which I think is good for the game.

Still, I would have to agree that the repair times are simply too high.

Now, as to you question...I REJECT it's premise! I think of myself as a pretty happy person...it is everyone else that is so sad. Why are they so sad: I have no idea.  Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 7:26 am

ysosad wrote:
RuneSlayer wrote:
ysosad wrote:
RuneSlayer wrote:

2. We may decrease the repairing times for the items a bit, if the Community finds them so tedious, BUT I don't want Epic and Godlike items to be repaired in a few minutes.

Nine out of ten doctors community members agree, the repair times are too tedious.

The 10th is just being contradictory for the sake of being contradictory.

Is this why your are so sad ysosad? Wink

I think the game has had a lot of changes for the better. That goes for increasing repair times too because in so doing you've increased the value of controlling a forge...which I think is good for the game.

Still, I would have to agree that the repair times are simply too high.

Now, as to you question...I REJECT it's premise! I think of myself as a pretty happy person...it is everyone else that is so sad. Why are they so sad: I have no idea.  Wink

Agreed.

We will decrease the repairing times.

The Ancient Forge will always be an "asset" for any Guild controlling it.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 7:48 am

RuneSlayer wrote:
We will decrease the repairing times.

Yes, Yes, and .. YES! ... Basketball cheers Exclamation (though it took 90% of the community instead of the normal 70% to convince the developers on this one Shocked )

Now, while the iron is hot1 .... the community needs to speak ...

How much do we want the repair times decreased by to be "reasonable" and "balanced" so the game is "fun"?



RuneSlayer wrote:
The Ancient Forge will always be an "asset" for any Guild controlling it.

Well ... yes ... and ... no ... An "asset" theoretically Rolling Eyes ... however ... it is so powerful ... it makes the other guilds jealous & angry and annoyed at the guild that control the forge ... so in some sense its a "liability"1.


1And the developers are being softies accommodating ...
2Undoubtedly by deliberate game design, since we *know* the developers want intra-faction fighting for lots of "BLOOD".
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 7:52 am

Pearl wrote:
Well ... yes ... and ... no ... An "asset" theoretically Rolling Eyes ... however ... it is so powerful ... it makes the other guilds jealous & angry and annoyed at the guild that control the forge ... so in some sense its a "liability"1.

Well....just TAKE IT FROM THEM!!!!!  Twisted Evil 
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 8:18 am

i would say dramatically decrees. between 25-50%
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 10:01 am

about repairing times. Rare items have increased repairing loading time too (not only epic and gl). On old server none of my rares were repairing for 2 hours:
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 11:24 am

kuba_ wrote:
about repairing times. Rare items have increased repairing loading time too (not only epic and gl). On old server none of my rares were repairing for 2 hours:
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I never said that Rare items didn't receive an increase in their repairing times WHEN Olympus launched. But since then they have been nerfed a lot more compared to the epic and godlike items on Olympus.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 12:34 pm

sorry i made a mistake. You said about repair cost and i read repair time in other topic Smile. I agree of increasing cost of repairing items, but repairing times should be lowered much even for epics, they are regular gear at endgame.

ps i have one question about rarity frags from pvp. Has been any changes lately or i was just unlucky?
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 1:22 pm

kuba_ wrote:
sorry i made a mistake. You said about repair cost and i read repair time in other topic Smile. I agree of increasing cost of repairing items, but repairing times should be lowered much even for epics, they are regular gear at endgame.

ps i have one question about rarity frags from pvp. Has been any changes lately or i was just unlucky?

Changes are always mentioned in the Patch notes. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 1:24 pm

I'd be for a general decrease AND a research tree for repair/re-forging along side the crafting one(I know its probably too complicated to add it now but I guy can dream right?)

Just my two cents.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 2:57 pm

Just to be clear, I only play on everos at present. So I hope these changes won't just be for olympus?

RuneSlayer wrote:
XViper wrote:
I don't mind if they aren't repaired in a few minutes, but I think over 3 hours for anything is crazy.

Why is it crazy? Since a player can have more than 1 item of any type, he has the option to use items in a rotation.

I think its crazy because I have 180 'broken' items, and it seems to be ever increasing. I'm breaking items faster than I can repair them, because I can't be online all day adding more items into my 9 available repair slots.

Remember, I was only suggesting a temporary decrease until the entire system is improved. But right now all this does is serve to piss people off.

No Uncommon more than 30mins.
No Rare should take more than 1 hour.
No Epic more than 2 hours.
No Godlike more than 3 hours.

By having a Godlike take 3 hours, it may as well be 12-24 hours for most players anyway due to available time/play sessions.

The repair times are only ridiculous because I have to repair my items manually. I can't repair while I sleep. I can't repair while I'm away from the computer.

Until such a time as there is a more user-friendly system in place (which I know you're working on), repair times need to be less of a burden.

Remember, your players come here to play the game, and enjoy themselves. Nothing about tedious & mindless tasks is enjoyable to anyone.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 13, 2014 7:32 pm

I am still majorly in support of the idea of smith buildings lowering repair times by 1% per level, maxing out at 24%. Runesmith could effect both banners and artifacts or just banners depending on whether Rune wants artifact repair time to be lowered (I think it should effect both). This would majorly bolster the desire to upgrade those buildings and help with the higher repair times later in the game as well. (this in addition to some love given to existing repair times.)

Anything to make upgrading each building more satisfying is a step in the right direction in my opinion. And this is a great opportunity for those smith buildings. That way we don't just feel like the building is a "prerequisite" only. Very Happy 

I think Market, Lab, and CC need some love of some kind too, but that's another topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 14, 2014 2:36 am

Let us update the repairing times and then you will see the difference. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 14, 2014 7:48 am

RuneSlayer wrote:
Let us update the repairing times and then you will see the difference. Wink

looking forward to it :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 14, 2014 9:47 am

started out today with all my gear repaired. now i have 9 slots occupied and 23 epic and GL´s broken! and its getting more and more for every fight! you really need to fix this fast!
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PostSubject: Re: Repair Times are ridiculous.......   Repair Times are ridiculous....... I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 14, 2014 9:53 am

DarkEkok wrote:
started out today with all my gear repaired. now i have 9 slots occupied and 23 epic and GL´s broken! and its getting more and more for every fight! you really need to fix this fast!

If you use so many gl and epics you will have full repair slots even after the update Smile
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