Nothing is easier than yesterday...

Posts : 183 Join date : 2013-07-12 Location : Vardenfall

In my rather limited experience since you "changed" some stuff to make it "easier".... Nothing's gotten easier.

IN FACT, it's even HARDER now than it was yesterday, something which, given the fact that yesterday it was impossible to turn a profit, is unacceptable. :-/ with an HI/Archer build (the only build I've ever trusted in NM/PVP, and it's never let me down before) I was literally DESTROYED in a Nightmare. (I should mention that I didn't allow the enemy to flank me- they marched straight into and then through my "shieldwall" of HI) this should not happen. Sad

Posts : 782 Join date : 2013-07-19

Realf Lantow wrote:: In my rather limited experience since you "changed" some stuff to make it "easier".... Nothing's gotten easier.

IN FACT, it's even HARDER now than it was yesterday, something which, given the fact that yesterday it was impossible to turn a profit, is unacceptable. :-/ with an HI/Archer build (the only build I've ever trusted in NM/PVP, and it's never let me down before) I was literally DESTROYED in a Nightmare. (I should mention that I didn't allow the enemy to flank me- they marched straight into and then through my "shieldwall" of HI) this should not happen.

Really? I'm finding it to be quite a bit easier, especially coop, even some low level players are surviving now, which wasn't possible before.Nightmare is still quite hard I must admit, but not so hard that I can't beat it. Maybe something is causing the enemy composition to be harder for you or maybe you must experiment with some different unit combos? I don't know.

Posts : 451 Join date : 2013-05-26

coop is easier.
I tried solo normal after all patches with my normal setup and enemy army was quite similar to NM army (mercenareis,arti,hi,cav). So i prefer NM than normal. Rewards are much better Smile

Posts : 82 Join date : 2013-05-17

kuba_ wrote:: coop is easier.
I tried solo normal after all patches with my normal setup and enemy army was quite similar to NM army (mercenareis,arti,hi,cav). So i prefer NM than normal. Rewards are much better

I think this is the issue. Normal mode seems to be pretty much the same as NM except with lower level enemies. Whilst I can deal with this, the casualty rate is too high to make it worth it. As Kuba says, NM is a better reward ratio. The problem is for those players who can't do NM. When I think back to how I was before I was able to do NM, I'm sure I would've found the new normal mode far too challenging and I'm pretty sure I would've given up on the game. The new normal mode doesn't seem fair to lower level players.

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Normal difficulty, as all difficulties scales according to the level of the player. Although all units are unlocked for the AI, IF the player has unlocked them (HI, CAV, ART), the AI units are far less effective as in Nightmare. We will monitor the situation and we will make changes accordingly.

Posts : 511 Join date : 2013-05-08 Location : Amber Shores

Keep an eye on hard mode as well. I've heard complaints about it too Smile

Posts : 774 Join date : 2013-07-26

My experience with the new modes:

Normal - easiest & fastest to do. Can't rush it though with >>> (fast mode). Mercenaries are still a problem for rushing, and giants/ogres seem way too powerful.
Hard/Nightmare - both difficulties seem identical to me. I can win 90% of both, but takes way too long (often have to end in kiting). Not worth the time, unless its a quest. The battles are *fun* except for the giants/ogres (and sometimes trolls), which make a boring last 5 minutes of kiting with my archers.

Giants/ogre are being nerfed -- so that will probably make hard/nightmare about right.
Cooperatives - Fun again -- just about right [well except for the silly 'cream puff' bug that is being fixed right now].

Nerfing Giants & Ogres quote (from this Unbelievable Sabotage):

RuneSlayer wrote:: It seems that assassins from both sides (Light and Darkness) have poisoned the wells of both the Giants and the Ogres. Reports indicate that the poison will affect their Strength and their effectiveness in battle starting from tomorrow when the poison will start taking in effect!

Cream puff quote (from this Link to other Article (RE: One unit AI opponent)):

RuneSlayer wrote:: We know and we fixed it. Quick hotfix coming up in a few minutes. The problem was only located in GW CO-OP.

P.S.: Others are having a blast at the new cooperatives (from Prism Chat):

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Posts : 12 Join date : 2013-08-31

RuneSlayer wrote:: Normal difficulty, as all difficulties scales according to the level of the player. Although all units are unlocked for the AI, IF the player has unlocked them (HI, CAV, ART), the AI units are far less effective as in Nightmare. We will monitor the situation and we will make changes accordingly.

Enemy scaling makes no sense anyway -- at least to everyone EXCEPT the dev who thinks he knows better. The levels should do the scaling.

Posts : 830 Join date : 2013-08-23 Location : Australia

What do you mean jellybiscuit?

Posts : 109 Join date : 2013-06-04

oh shit, my first time lost from long time newcomer phase...
troll, giant...

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

We have also made another change to the difficulties so as to define each of them better:

Normal: No enemy Mercs

Hard: 1 Merc max

Nightmare: 2 Mercs

Change will go live in an hour or so with the next patch which also addresses some issues.

Posts : 331 Join date : 2013-05-02

Is the instant buff for weaker player still working?
Haven't noticed it in the last matches.

Posts : 451 Join date : 2013-05-26

Yes buff is working, you have to quick look at yours coop partner troops after beginning battle.

Posts : 774 Join date : 2013-07-26

9999 wrote:: Is the instant buff for weaker player still working?
Haven't noticed it in the last matches.

Yes, its still working.

I got the buff with my level 9 units (cooperative partner had level 14+ units) ... made me feel like a newbie again, lol.

Posts : 74 Join date : 2013-06-04

Co-ops are still murderous. Although you can get lucky and get one every once in a while that is not as bad. If most your troops die, whats the point of fast heal?they still dont get the exp when you lose most units

Posts : 82 Join date : 2013-05-17

Stinkfinger wrote:: Co-ops are still murderous. Although you can get lucky and get one every once in a while that is not as bad. If most your troops die, whats the point of fast heal?they still dont get the exp when you lose most units

Plus I don't think they changed heal times for heroes? If they did, it wasn't by enough

Posts : 17 Join date : 2013-08-27 Location : Anywhere else

I don't know how you manage to do that, for I loose max 50% of my troops...
Although you need less time to regenerate.

Posts : 289 Join date : 2013-06-21

Waterflame wrote:: I don't know how you manage to do that, for I loose max 50% of my troops...
Although you need less time to regenerate.

is this the message?

Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-08-21

Well the difficulty had been nerfed so many times now, i dont believe anyone really struggles with it atm. It had been easier and easier day by day. And right now i dont see any difference to the "before the weekend" apart of mercs that are rather unimpressive by now.

Posts : 1043 Join date : 2013-07-09 Age : 42

Tibr wrote:: Well the difficulty had been nerfed so many times now, i dont believe anyone really struggles with it atm. It had been easier and easier day by day. And right now i dont see any difference to the "before the weekend" apart of mercs that are rather unimpressive by now.

I disagree. I think they are tougher and harder to kill than HI. But when they reach high levels they can really put out some damage. I don't think they are unimpressive except of course the spider swarm. Which i'm guessing will be around 50 ap.

Posts : 183 Join date : 2013-07-12 Location : Vardenfall

Scaren wrote:

Tibr wrote:: Well the difficulty had been nerfed so many times now, i dont believe anyone really struggles with it atm. It had been easier and easier day by day. And right now i dont see any difference to the "before the weekend" apart of mercs that are rather unimpressive by now.

I disagree. I think they are tougher and harder to kill than HI. But when they reach high levels they can really put out some damage. I don't think they are unimpressive except of course the spider swarm. Which i'm guessing will be around 50 ap.

The Spider Swarm... we've not gotten a fair interpretation of the Spider Swarm so far; if you notice it's actually a Cav unit; very fast. HOWEVER, in the AI army, it marches with LI; so there's plenty of time to kill it before it charges. In the hands of the players, especially those dwarves who finally have a "fast" unit, it will be quite valuable.

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