FoW/Volume Poll with multiple options

Posts : 204 Join date : 2013-12-01

So I've seen a request to split the major issues of the new battle mechanics being debated into separate polls. I've done that here, in a way which i believe captures the main thrust of the debates I've seen. I won't belabor my views on the subject I've said it many other places by now.

Instructions:
FoW = Fog of War. PvP = Player vs Player. PvE = Player vs AI & Coop's.
Please vote for only one choice in each pair to keep it honest.
Please Tryout the new battle system and see how the changes affect you before bashing them as different.
Feel free to not choose on an issue.

Disclaimer:
I voted for choices 1,4,5,7,10. I really like the way the Dev's have treated us and gone about improving the game. I want to thank them again for their efforts to improve BC, I simple believe that some of the things they've tried to do are mistakes and others need some more work(which Rune has freely admitted on some issues).

Important Note:
YOU can help change BC into what you want it to be, the Dev's for this game listen to the community IF we as the community make our will known they will consider it, they may say no, but they will think about it factor it into their decisions.

Thank you for your participation in the process,

Ferarith

Posts : 830 Join date : 2013-08-23 Location : Australia

I think I voted the same as you Fera??

Yes FoW for PvP
No FoW for PvE (due to AI 'cheating').
Yes Volume for PvP
Yes Volume for PvE
Volume needs work

However I'd also like to add my "No FoW for PvE" is only due to the way the AI currently acts (or doesn't act) to Fog of War.

As for volume needing work, I think it just needs some minor tweaks.
Perhaps less unit volume in combat, and maybe just SLIGHTLY less while moving around.

And as someone else mentioned (somewhere), if an order is given to move somewhere that is 'blocked' by an idle friendly unit, the idle unit should give way to the 'active' unit, and allow it to pass. (move out the way)

Alternatively, if the AI AP/gear difficulty was toned down a bit, the FoW wouldn't have such a negative 'stacking' affect on the overall game difficulty.

Generally people are upset because they are losing matches they otherwise used to win. So its not so much the mechanic itself, but the fact its made the game harder. Now that in itself isn't a horrible thing (people being able to win suicides with Excellent ratings 100% of the time was a little silly).

HOWEVER I think we can all appreciate how difficult it can be to prepare/fight against an enemy who (on average)

Has a higher AP army.
Has higher level units.
Has more units.
Has better gear.
Knows where all your units are.
All while you can't see a thing.

So I think rather than removing Fog of War, we need to look at balancing the inherent problem it may have caused indirectly instead.

Posts : 204 Join date : 2013-12-01

X,
I respect your opinion. However from my pov, PvE should be for "casual" gaming, its the reason i enjoyed the game so much. easy/relaxing to play and understand, sure i lost some, but i didn't get a headache figuring out how i lost and what to improve on. PvP should be for "challenging" gaming, making people think react and outsmart a person just as handicapped as you, i've played a few and enjoy the challenge every now and again, but not ALL the time. But that's how I view my gaming experience in BC. And yes that's exactly how i voted.
F

Posts : 126 Join date : 2013-08-30 Location : Venice, Italy

I like the new battle system, and i say that it needs only to be trained to it. Fight many battles, accept his mechanisms and u will be a great warrior!

Posts : 451 Join date : 2013-05-26

I am for Volume, but for Fog of War maybe it would be good to disable it in solo easy/normal/hard fights, so beginners would have time to get use to game mechanic (volume). In coop and higher difficulties Fog of War should be enabled.

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Gentlemen...just a heads up...

We are not blind....so whatever the poll result is, you WILL see changes in the volume on Monday...

As for FOW, we don't want to change it tbh...but we will definitely invest some time to make some AI tweaks.

Posts : 93 Join date : 2013-11-07

XViper wrote:

Yes FoW for PvP
No FoW for PvE (due to AI 'cheating').
Yes Volume for PvP
Yes Volume for PvE
Volume needs work

(...)

agree and voted the same<<

Posts : 124 Join date : 2013-11-10

I voted:
Yes FoW for PvP
Yes FoW for PvE
Yes Volume for PvP
Yes Volume for PvE
Volume needs work

I'm starting to love these new mechanics. It has upped both the challenge and the enjoyment factor for me.

I'd rather they fix AI cheating than get rid of FoW for PVE.

Posts : 85 Join date : 2014-03-07

The new mechanics are good expet on ai cheating.

I'm more worried by the race balance and archer overpowered

Posts : 186 Join date : 2013-05-12 Age : 28 Location : USA

Why are there no options for if Fog of War needs tweaked?

I like Fog of War. I think it's a great feature. But I think it needs tweaking.

Posts : 204 Join date : 2013-12-01

Tops wrote:: Why are there no options for if Fog of War needs tweaked?

I like Fog of War. I think it's a great feature. But I think it needs tweaking.

#1. I'm limited to 10 options.
#2. I didn't see a FoW change discussion just a YES/NO argument.

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