The game is getting boring and people are leaving!

This may sound a bit disrespectful. If so, I'm sorry, because that is not what I intended.

The stalemate is getting boring. I'm unable to attack the two regions in front of the Light capital. I've given up on keeping the light side in check, there is no prize in sight and seeing the light side take a region is the only mildly odd exciting thing about the game, at the moment.

I decided spending time on the guild instead(MH), working on some regions next to our capital 47. The regions have no real value. but it gave me something to do and experiencing some kind of progress was a relief. Today I realized that the guild needed about 90.000 of each resource to claim our second region, which I think is both crazy and demoralizing at best, guess I have to go back to defending the area around the Light capital for a while  

One of the things I've begun noticing in the last couple of days is the lack of players on the Olympus map(Don't know about Everos, I'm not able to join that game world) Few are online and even fewer seem to be playing coops. The new guild members that are accepted only play for a day or so and they decide to leave the game, I've tried handing out resources and fragments as an incentive to keep playing but it simply doesn't work! I've even heard guild members saying got to go play battlefield 1, because of the lack of activity.

If the current stalemate continues, then where will it leave the game? Can't something be done about this situation? I'm afraid I can't come up with any real suggestions to solving it as I don't know what is being planned or implemented. In my opinion the game is bleeding out  and that's sad.

This shows light side is fighting back, heavy dark hitters are asleep for now and don;t think you can easily beat the light side, we are still alive^^

Boboknack wrote:

One of the things I've begun noticing in the last couple of days is the lack of players on the Olympus map(Don't know about Everos, I'm not able to join that game world) Few are online and even fewer seem to be playing coops.

 
Yep, getting an coop on Olympus is nearly impossible.
[And i thought that Erevos is nearly dead since weeks...]
 
I lose from day to day my interest on Olympus also, as it will take another ~2 months, before i could fight the light capital (damn upgrades...).

Bblazer wrote:

This shows light side is fighting back, heavy dark hitters are asleep for now and don;t think you can easily beat the light side, we are still alive^^

Not asleep, bored to death more likely, but by all means do what you have to do!

Refer to ysosad's post bout this, he has done a beautiful job maintaining and updating it based on suggestions to end the stalemate

uflb999 wrote:

Refer to ysosad's post bout this, he has done a beautiful job maintaining and updating it based on suggestions to end the stalemate

Ysosad is ready to go ape shit on these here forums (on 2/28/14 or 3/3/14 to be fair) if the 90% (posted 2/14/14):

RuneSlayer wrote:

Tibr wrote:

Good stuff. In what order will it get implemented, so we have a rough estimate what to expect when or is all this coming next patch   

I'd say that in the next 2 weeks, 90% should be implemented.

Doesn't actually include this as part of it (posted 2/14/14):

RuneSlayer wrote:

5. Prestige system - AI PvP - Guild Tournaments

i) AI controlled player armies will be introduced. The armies will be consisted of real current units with heroes and items that a player has. Whenever a player enters the PvP queue, the system will first try to match him with an online player. If that is not possible, then it will generate an AI controlled player army of the same Tier to play against. Players will be able to play against a higher Tiered player, by receiving a higher Tiered AI ally in a 2 Vs 2 PvP battle, in order to increase the chance of playing against a human player.

Which was intimated as the solution to the stalemate here on 1/15/14:

RuneSlayer wrote:

Tibr wrote:

I think you need a poll to find out what cycle duration ppl consider reasonable. I personally think anything above 3 months is an imposition to average players motivation and interest. I also think current mechanics are making it impossible to win the game on erevos, maybe even on olympus. And while you may argue that smaller containers remove the stalemate, i dont find that approach satisfying at all.

The biggest issue is CP ballance that is rewarding the weaker side. Also we have uniqual CP contributions between capital armies - the closer you get the shorter losers horse has to run. Third part is the capital siege itself. Lets say one side had 100 active players and losers side had 75, the active 100 will not be able to win because they are limited to only pvp and nightmare+ on the capital tile, while the losing 75 can endlessly coop to defend, probably while utilising a CP bonus. So at current state winning and losing is only possible if some unexpclicable circumstances get actives of one side to be busy with other things while the attackers literally sacrifice all their time over days to win. Alternatively if the losing side gets bored and stops defending, equal to "hey guys, lets end this .. i am bored".
It is well posible to win if the active population proportions are at about 1:2, which again is far from ballance.

When it comes to the necessity of "hey guys..." then the game failed in terms of keeping up the motivation for long enough and slowed any advantage that was allowing to win within reasonable duration.
I do understand the logic behind the cp ballance eventhough i dont like it. And possibly that system is justifyable after guild controlled capital armies get introduced since more players may be able to raise more armies and be able to generate more CP (and be countered by gem investores who care enough and so on). But right now i dont see how the game could end without a miracle or some very unexplicable core player activity circumstances.

Simple and quick answers:

1) On Olympus it is not possible to end at its current stage. The Dark Faction does not have the sufficient "firepower" to take down the Light Capital.

2) On Erevos, it is possible...because the Light Faction HAS the sufficient firepower to take it down.

3) You are forgetting PvP AI.

In other words, I've been waiting for a solution to a problem that was officially recognized on (though surely known about prior to) 1/15/14...

42 days without a solution....it seems like a long time to me.

I couldn't agree more.

However, the fact that we have made so many changes (HUGE) to the mechanics of the game, does not allow us to upload any changes. The reason is that we wish to test them thoroughly, which is why we are working on a test server where selected players will be able to test the new features (more on that later on).

Search the Forum, and if you people can find a single point which I have said that it will be changed or added and it hasn't, then I will hand you the axe myself. (Just make sure not to miss, cause I am not going to stand there waiting for another swing... )

We will make the necessary changes to change things on Olympus...Next week...

Don't worry people...I may have been away, but I've been extremely busy. If I could only open my mouth now and tell you the news... Soon...

Okay Runeslayer,

Here is my swing of said axe. We have asked you for weeks to allow us to attack the light capital in mass, as the mass of the dark side on Olympus has fought twice to the front door of the capital.

We asked you to let us fight like we had been to take the light capital on Olympus and have lobbied for said changes in this forum for weeks. It is ridiculous to tell any player that they can fight and help their faction, but not when attacking the capital. I really hope you don not need examples of this...again.

Further for you to act like no one has asked for changes is at best disingenuous. You can either make the changes or you wont, that is entirely up to you. But do not imply that we have not lobbied hard for changes that your refuse to address or make.

Let me know

ST

Bblazer wrote:

This shows light side is fighting back, heavy dark hitters are asleep for now and don;t think you can easily beat the light side, we are still alive^^

It's not that you were fighting back, we completely overpowered you.  It's that we reached a point where it was impossible to go further because we were literally unable to attack.

Rune, this is not something that should be put off any longer. We are all hoping for a hotfix to equalize the light and dark armies, make all regions attackable, and balance the number of players on Olympus.

For all my friends on Olympus, I really do hope for for this. The game hurts both sides, since it is an endless stalemate.

I again wounder how long it will take Rune Slayer to get it? How many post, how many threads does it take?

Well Rune you asked us not to worry? Your people are VERY WORRIED. and FRUSTRATED!

Come on man it can not be that hard...  

ST

There is absolutely no reason for you to be that rude towards Rune. He just came back and you're already harassing him. No wonder dark olumpus players dislike you...YOUR OWN FACTION

How do you claim to know who does and does not like me? Have you posted a survey? You are who again the radiant guard of something or another?

And you matter how? I have played hard and invested both time and money. In my opinion that entitles me to an opinion. Harnessing Rune Slayer, I say no. He has his big boy drawers on, and I am sure he does not need you to wipe his nose.

Again most radiant guardian of what ever it is that your guard. Stick to the issue at hand, if you can.

ST

soulthief wrote:

In my opinion that entitles me to an opinion.

  sorry couldn't resist

soulthief wrote:

How do you claim to know who does and does not like me? Have you posted a survey?

basic odds. doesn't mean either of you is right.

and yea, changes are too big to be quick about it.

as for stalemate... we at bc1 went through this. it does hurt the motivation, hellishly. it took me lots of persuading the other dark leaders to just stop defending and end that mess. So yea, winning/losing is hard atm. either one side should just give up (seems, lighties in bc2..), or ask, as a community, to reset the map with or without losing.

Fair enough Fyrr,

And thanks for the ATM bit, it never gets old   ....I hope these big changes do not take too long...


ST