MVP Calculation Qustion

Posts : 104 Join date : 2013-05-26

I was wondering if Battle Damage (negative points for casualties) was taken out before or after the points are multiplied for AP differences?

If they are not taken out first, may I suggest that they start being taken out first.

I don't know of any other solutions to helping Dwarf players gain a few more MVPs. Their speed, even playing with 4-5 Cav Units, is such that they just can't seem to gain MVP's as easily as Elves or even Humans.

Posts : 782 Join date : 2013-07-19

THAN0S wrote:: I was wondering if Battle Damage (negative points for casualties) was taken out before or after the points are multiplied for AP differences?

If they are not taken out first, may I suggest that they start being taken out first.

I don't know of any other solutions to helping Dwarf players gain a few more MVPs. Their speed, even playing with 4-5 Cav Units, is such that they just can't seem to gain MVP's as easily as Elves or even Humans.

Indeed. Unless you bring artillery, I can see no way dwarf could ever get MVP against any good co-op player who rushes into the enemy (which is almost every good player). By the time you get to the fray your allies' cavalry will have decimated almost everything.

Posts : 183 Join date : 2013-07-12 Location : Vardenfall

Bobba wrote:

THAN0S wrote:: I was wondering if Battle Damage (negative points for casualties) was taken out before or after the points are multiplied for AP differences?

If they are not taken out first, may I suggest that they start being taken out first.

I don't know of any other solutions to helping Dwarf players gain a few more MVPs. Their speed, even playing with 4-5 Cav Units, is such that they just can't seem to gain MVP's as easily as Elves or even Humans.

Indeed. Unless you bring artillery, I can see no way dwarf could ever get MVP against any good co-op player who rushes into the enemy (which is almost every good player). By the time you get to the fray your allies' cavalry will have decimated almost everything.

"by the time you get to the fray, your allies' cavalry..." CAVALRY!?! we Elves don't need to rely upon cavalry to decimate everything before the dwarves join the fight... Also, I don't foresee the overall suggestion working; my dwarven brethren ALMOST always take more losses than elves do in COOP. Razz

(which is strange, given that dwarves are harder to kill than elves are)

Posts : 782 Join date : 2013-07-19

Realf Lantow wrote:

Bobba wrote:

THAN0S wrote:: I was wondering if Battle Damage (negative points for casualties) was taken out before or after the points are multiplied for AP differences?

If they are not taken out first, may I suggest that they start being taken out first.

I don't know of any other solutions to helping Dwarf players gain a few more MVPs. Their speed, even playing with 4-5 Cav Units, is such that they just can't seem to gain MVP's as easily as Elves or even Humans.

Indeed. Unless you bring artillery, I can see no way dwarf could ever get MVP against any good co-op player who rushes into the enemy (which is almost every good player). By the time you get to the fray your allies' cavalry will have decimated almost everything.

"by the time you get to the fray, your allies' cavalry..." CAVALRY!?! we Elves don't need to rely upon cavalry to decimate everything before the dwarves join the fight... Also, I don't foresee the overall suggestion working; my dwarven brethren ALMOST always take more losses than elves do in COOP. Razz

(which is strange, given that dwarves are harder to kill than elves are)

Hehe, sorry, maybe it's different over there on the light side. You can use archers and artillery too or rely on your extra speed and that can certainly remove a dwarf's chance of MvP in most cases, but cavalry give the most income in battles so people in the dark faction tend to use them a lot for coop.

Posts : 142 Join date : 2013-07-12

People on the light faction do that to. It is a common sight to see a human/elf player bring full cav / LIA and just charge. Some don't even bother to move the LIA and keep them at the bottom of the map the whole game.

Also dwarves taking more damage is because dwarves are mainly infantry and once you're on a spot and a fight starts, you can't really manoeuver out of the spot (due to speed) so you have to fight, in melee mostly, whatever comes at you.