Question about the reset

Posts : 35 Join date : 2013-10-25

I was just wondering if one side does claim victory and the map resets will our accounts reset too?

Subject: Re: Question about the reset Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:31 pm

turtle wrote:: I was just wondering if one side does claim victory and the map resets will our accounts reset too?

I hope not.... if so, neither side would want to win.

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Yes, accounts are reset, but both the winners and the losers receive "something", which can be used to get "something", even exchange it with Gems... Wink

A % of the purchased Gems is returned back.

First 100 in the Rankings (for each Faction) receive "something"...

Posts : 62 Join date : 2013-12-15

RuneSlayer wrote:: Yes, accounts are reset, but both the winners and the losers receive "something", which can be used to get "something", even exchange it with Gems...

A % of the purchased Gems is returned back.

First 100 in the Rankings (for each Faction) receive "something"...

Hmmm....something..something....

The winners receive...the losers head on pikes....

The losers receive...pikes through their heads....

somewhere between 0% and 100% of the gems are returned....good good...

top 100 on each side get.....a swift kick in the backside for having so little social life....and a coupon to Chucky Da Rat's rehab clinic for video game addicts...

Good good...glad we got all that exact information out there Runeslayer ole buddy ole pal ole chum Basketball

Posts : 47 Join date : 2013-12-13 Location : Dublin

RuneSlayer wrote:: Yes, accounts are reset, but both the winners and the losers receive "something", which can be used to get "something", even exchange it with Gems...

A % of the purchased Gems is returned back.

First 100 in the Rankings (for each Faction) receive "something"...

What's the point then, honestly?
I'd rather never win and keep all my gems and purchases. I'm not using my hard earned money on gems just so they can be "taken" away from me as form of "winning"

That's the most lame thing I've heard here so far. Basicly currently I'm buying gems, so you can take what I bought with them away if we win?
It's discouraging to even try to be honest if that's true. Account reset and only % of gems returned has nothing to with "winning".

I assume that with stalemate on old world you guys never actually had to think about, but IMHO it's about time to rethink your definition of "win" and what's going to happen once either Capital is down.

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Well, I've been holding this information right from the beginning of the game and now I am giving a few pieces of the puzzle and you are still not happy with it? Smile

Don't you want to wait till you find out what will happen? The surprise..the excitement..?

Don't you want to slowly discover the lore of the game? Would you prefer me to just go ahead and tell you what is really going on? Smile

Posts : 585 Join date : 2013-10-21

Honestly all accounts are getting reseted. That sounds horrible.
All experience gained gone?
All building levels gone?
All frags and items gone?

Why in the hole world would somebody even want to win, if we are getting punished for winning the game?

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

You are not getting punished. The game world ends and new world rises, just like Olympus.

The game world has a goal..to capture the enemy capital. Once the goal is reached, both Factions are being rewarded accordingly and their rewards are carried on to the next world.

There is no online strategy game which does not work like that. All game worlds are getting reset.

Posts : 98 Join date : 2013-07-25

I agree partly.
Either tell us what exactly we get for winning or there will be a panic soon.

Non-gem buyers would be punished with a reset, as they would never catch up with gem-buyers. Playing with gems gives a HUGE - ah let me rephrase this so you can understand it better: it gives a frecking HUGE bonus to playing.
If it will be about only playing in the beginning phase of the game from now on, then playing without gems would be worthless.

Do tell us what we get for winning else I'll start to tell players to stop playing this game. And I guess others will do that too.
(Newbies ask all the time "does this game worth it, shall I play it?" You can imagine what happens if we start to give the opposite answer from now on...)

Posts : 47 Join date : 2013-12-13 Location : Dublin

We are getting punished.

I'm all in for world reset, BUT accounts reset is awful awful awful idea.

Main thing that you're going to achieve with accounts reset after "win" is large amount of players quitting the game in rage.

Myself, if I've had been informed earlier about it, I'd never use my money on this game. I guess it's too late for refund, eh?

Horrible misinformation.

Posts : 62 Join date : 2013-12-15

I have always figured that once a capital fell, everything got reset to the start.

Here is why....

1) They are running a business where gems are their profit. Resetting means you burn more gems but at the same time, its not a constant drain on the pocketbook.

2) New players that come in are at a disadvantage to established players so things like PvP and ranking and fame and all that can really be out of their reach.

I mean seriously, we are just a few weeks into the new server and already we have ppl with nearly a hundred THOUSAND CPs wracked up....a starting player generates...maybe 8-10?

Going to take an awful long time to get near that 10k player much less someone with 100k.

3) After you take the enemy capital..what else is there?

You've won...hit the reset button and start over and do it a different way....

Now, I would love that we get 100% of the gems back that we pay on repair slots, banners (etc) and the gems are consumed to speed things up, get resources etc are eaten....but that is entirely up to the devs...that is a "Simeron rarely burns gems to get resources but he does buy banners and repairs slots" thing...*8P
lol!

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Ok then...

Ala wrote:: Non-gem buyers would be punished with a reset, as they would never catch up with gem-buyers. Playing with gems gives a HUGE - ah let me rephrase this so you can understand it better: it gives a frecking HUGE bonus to playing.
If it will be about only playing in the beginning phase of the game from now on, then playing without gems would be worthless.

Taters wrote:: I'd rather never win and keep all my gems and purchases. I'm not using my hard earned money on gems just so they can be "taken" away from me as form of "winning"

Two completely opposite arguments....

Non buyers and buyers....

So, what would you do to satisfy both groups and keep the game interesting and challenging? Because simply if players cap all techs, buildings and units..what else is there to do if not conquering the Capital? And then what?

Simeron77089 wrote:: Now, I would love that we get 100% of the gems back that we pay on repair slots, banners (etc) and the gems are consumed to speed things up, get resources etc are eaten....but that is entirely up to the devs..

Actually...partly...that's the idea..

Posts : 98 Join date : 2013-07-25

Deal with the gem-buyers buying 100x advantage then. Which is just plain stupid right now.

Forbid buying resources with gems! And it'll be alright if it's a full reset.
Oh I mean it could be alright, but the resource costs for everything is way higher than on Erevos, so you'll never be actually able to enjoy this game...
Or give every player resources at the beginning for every fought battle. (and not for every cp because that would help gem-buyers again)

I understand, business and blabla...but if you're are building a bad game, players will just leave...and no money...

Posts : 98 Join date : 2013-07-25

Start giving answers Rune, for example. Not something, not parts of the answer, a full answer. Or just say you don't know that yourself, I would say that's alright.

What do we exactly get? What do non-gem buyers get when a reset happens?

Posts : 11 Join date : 2013-12-20

Gem players do have an advantage....agreed, but if they want to spend their hard earned money in the game, they should have an advantage. The game itself is enjoyable and challenging either way in my opinion. Gem buyers should get 100% of their gems back at reset, and non-gem buyers go into the next world with the aforementioned prizes/bonuses for winning. Probably not much help deciding what to do, but that's my 2 cents anyway. thanks.......Paddy.

Posts : 585 Join date : 2013-10-21

As of right now i don't see any reason why I should even consider attacking the capital. Should olympus reset in the way you mentioned with all individual progress washed away. I will return to erevos and gladly accept the never ending stalemate. Cause in an always resetting olympus i wont even be able to reach cavs.

Reset the world map and wash away every progress ever made by one faction and their guilds and give the ominous something you mentioned as a compensation for that.

But don't reset the individual progress a player has made. That's outrageous.

Posts : 47 Join date : 2013-12-13 Location : Dublin

RuneSlayer wrote:: So, what would you do to satisfy both groups and keep the game interesting and challenging? Because simply if players cap all techs, buildings and units..what else is there to do if not conquering the Capital? And then what?

Let me paint my point of view here for a moment.

You take a part in the car race.
Let's say you bought fancy car to race with others (hint hint gems).
Once the race is over and you cross the finish line, you're back at start, BUT your car is without rear wheels and steering wheel because *interesting and challenging*. See where I'm going with it? What about to money used on those missing parts? They're gone in exchange of what? And why exacly they're gone? Why none ever said it's possible?

The whole issue here is that we're not spending our time and money for the items, exp, banners, resources, speedups for "Good Job mate!" sign.

I'm aware there's a couple players almost already at end game due gems and such, but why should the 90% of remaining community suffer? When they're going to be able to reach mentioned above end game if you're planing to reset their accounts?

I blame the lack of information here.

Why don't you put a warning when buying resources and speedups that they won't be refunded if your factions wins. That surely won't help with business model, but at least you're going to be honest and fair to your users there.
What's going to happen with all the gems used on resources for leveling up guilds and their hex bonuses? Are those going to waste as well because of *interesting and challenging*?

Be honest with me for a moment, do you really think that will encourage players to spend their money here? Because myself, it's doing exactly the opposite for me.

Personally I'll be never okay with account reset, because simply I'd like to reach end game, max all the buildings, max all the units, gear them all up with godlike items. And with the reset idea you're taking that away from me, and many others.

And whatever happens, there's no way I'd ever be fine with any % of my gems being taken away. I paid for them so I could use them on banners, items, repair slots, vip platinum BUT resources and speedups as well. It's the same money there. Either refund all the gems or give me back my money, simple as that.
What exactly gives you the right of taking % of it away? In exchange of what? And why no one informed us about it before we used the gems?
We're doing that to support you, we're all aware that you have to earn to make the living and keep the game alive. But we're doing that mianly because of advantages it give us, not the charity, however harsh that might sound.
Don't punish us for that.

Unfair is delicate word here.

As for the part "what after capital is down". Well, I guess that's something game creators should think about while making the game, but that's just me. Personally though, I'd never see account reset as viable option there.

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

I could easily answer to the above posts, but I will refrain from doing so, before the situation goes out of hand and I simply decide...to quit...cause even a sturdy Dwarf with battleaxes filled with runes has his limits...

So, I am locking this thread and I am starting a new one where I will present EXACTLY what will happen when the game resets.