Ancient forge. false promises

Posts : 585 Join date : 2013-10-21

Apparently the ancient forge promises something but doesn't deliver. It promises a bonus to crafting higher rarity items, but nobody actually gets better odds when mixing frags from owning an ancient forge.

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Claudandus wrote:: Apparently the ancient forge promises something but doesn't deliver. It promises a bonus to crafting higher rarity items, but nobody actually gets better odds when mixing frags from owning an ancient forge.

It provides a bonus to crafting a better rarity than without having it. No bug.

Posts : 585 Join date : 2013-10-21

I've been asking people and everybody told me, that it doesn't increase the odds. Can you give me some numbers or a specific example in what way it actually does increase the rarity when mixing frags?
Ty

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Claudandus wrote:: I've been asking people and everybody told me, that it doesn't increase the odds. Can you give me some numbers or a specific example in what way it actually does increase the rarity when mixing frags?
Ty

As you may know, each Regional Bonus can be upgraded. Depending on the level of the Ancient Forge, it decreases crafting and repairing cost and provides a % bonus when a player mixes different fragments. So if for example someone mixes common common and uncommon fragments, the probability of the crafted item to be common or uncommon without an Ancient Forge could be 70% common 30% uncommon (not actual probabilities). Depending on the level of the Ancient Forge the player would receive a bonus towards the higher rarity, so it could be for example 50% common and 50% uncommon. The player will also be granted a discount in the crafting cost.

Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-08-21

Crimson Kings have the Forge upgraded to lvl 10.

It does not provide any % increase while mixing frags yet.

Will it ever? at lvl 15? or 20 maybe ... long term investment without supply sharing.

Posts : 511 Join date : 2013-05-08 Location : Amber Shores

I have to side with Claudandus and Tibr. If at lvl 10 there is no change on the % of mixing fragments then you can see why people would assume that the ancient forge does not deliver on its promises.

Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-08-21

Please confirm the statement.

Ancient Forge lvl 10 does not provide any bonus to crafting higher rarity items.
Forge will provide said bonus at higher levels.

Is this correct, true, intended?

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

Claudandus, Tibr and Piktas...you are challenged to a battle with permanent unit death! RuneSlayer against all your units!

(Patience gentlemen....let me look into this tomorrow morning and I will return with a post) Wink

Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-08-21

I have a second acc on olympos with terribad low level units i dont care too much about Very Happy

I could take your challenge without any regrets ;-)

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

We will conduct some changes to the Ancient Forge to make the bonuses a little bit more transparent and more...effective....

The changes will not be done this week though...

Posts : 511 Join date : 2013-05-08 Location : Amber Shores

yay

Thanks, Rune!

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

FYI changes have already been implemented in the system. We just haven't made the changes in the front as well (graphical presentation).

In other words, the Ancient Forge is now providing significant better bonuses in crafting a better rarity item but we haven't implemented the graphical presentation of it.

The Restless Posts : 445 Join date : 2013-11-24

Bump.

Subject: Re: Ancient forge. false promises Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:28 am

ysosad wrote:: Bump.

WTF??

The Restless Posts : 445 Join date : 2013-11-24

Gimli wrote:

ysosad wrote:: Bump.

WTF??

Yes, it still hasn't been changed (graphically at least) to my knowledge....hence the bump.

Posts : 698 Join date : 2013-08-21

True.
Otoh I am uncertain what happens if that mystery should get unveiled.
While i had access to the lvl 11 forge before Erevos reset it was doing "ok". Then it got buffed, and we got it to lvl 11 once again, honestly my results were terrible (but statistically tollerable). Others didnt complain. I think it provides a bonus of about 0,75-1% per level on 3 frag crafts for 2epic+1gl. The bonus is there but it should not become the primary reason to hold a forge. But this could become one very quick if "true" values are on display. Right now those with a forge dont think about it too much, reduced repair times and cost, yay awesome already.

Posts : 3124 Join date : 2012-11-13

ysosad wrote:

Gimli wrote:

ysosad wrote:: Bump.

WTF??

Yes, it still hasn't been changed (graphically at least) to my knowledge....hence the bump.

Good bump.

The Unyielding Posts : 802 Join date : 2013-05-31

RuneSlayer wrote:

ysosad wrote:

Gimli wrote:

ysosad wrote:: Bump.

WTF??

Yes, it still hasn't been changed (graphically at least) to my knowledge....hence the bump.

Good bump.

and..? any plans..?